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Old Aug 01, 2007, 10:34 PM // 22:34   #21
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Getting kicked for telling the group to get a monk.

He thought a N/mo was good enough for a mission.*cough-.-
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Old Aug 01, 2007, 10:56 PM // 22:56   #22
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I'm going to vote for the monk who tried to lifebond Zen Daijun hardmode. Our ebay friend here with his fow armor, with his crystaline sword and torment shield didn't understand that OoA was about to make him it's jail-cell best friend a number of times.

Oh, hey, Order of Apostasy dropped your bonds again? Go figure. He called us noobs for telling him to run something other than lifebond, LAWL.

We dropped him and herohenched the mission in 13 minutes :P
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Old Aug 01, 2007, 11:28 PM // 23:28   #23
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I'm going to vote for the monk who tried to lifebond Zen Daijun hardmode. Our ebay friend here with his fow armor, with his crystaline sword and torment shield didn't understand that OoA was about to make him it's jail-cell best friend a number of times.

Oh, hey, Order of Apostasy dropped your bonds again? Go figure. He called us noobs for telling him to run something other than lifebond, LAWL.

We dropped him and herohenched the mission in 13 minutes :P
Ah, heroes and hench... You may make the game silent but you sure as hell get the job done first time.
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Old Aug 01, 2007, 11:32 PM // 23:32   #24
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There was a thread like this a while back.

Hmmm the worst player I've seen? Gee, just too many. This one's gotta be the best I can remember so far:

I started a Rit a few days ago. Got up to Zen Daijun. We got a party consisting of something like 2 sins a Rt (me) and ele + monk hench + others. So we started the mission. Half way into the mission, I noticed a sin has his health dropped steadily fast, but not been healed. I was stunned, as AI usually have more reflexes than human players in responding to heal and interrupts. Taking a look on the mini map: OHHH that's why... the sin is 1 aggro bubble away from the main group, hitting a mob of 4-5 afflicted.

No doubt he died, and rage quitted (without saying anything, so I can only assume he's from a different language group).

Some days later, my rit is doing unwelcomed guest. We got a 20 Necro incredibly. But a similiar level Ele keep on dying, despite 2 level 18 hero monks and me, who's running a pseudo communing / resto build. He yelled WHY DO I KEEP ON DYING. I ran up a little to take a look what was going on: he charges infront of everyone and casts spells. No wonder he's the first to be aggroed.

The last incidence is not entirely their fault. But I will include it in here any way: we were doing Vizunah Sq (Local). We met up with Menhloh. Got to the broken temple to defend the first wave of afflicted. Suddenly the warr starts to die. Then he died. Then the sin start to die. the the sin died. I was perplexed. The shelder and union spirit didn't even die. How did they die? Then the monk start to die. I look in mini map, the monk was running away from a mob of 10 afflicted from the stairs. Apparently, the warr and sin ran off to fight afflicted 1 aggro bubble away, when most afflicted were neutralised around the temple, not knowing more will spawn. The monk ran after them, trying to rez them ...

No doubt we wiped =/
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Old Aug 01, 2007, 11:52 PM // 23:52   #25
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PRetty much anyone Ive played with who acted like a dumbass and tried to justify their stupidity with "Im rank 5 n00b!" or "Ive been playing since beta n00b"

Its sad when people dont realize that the fact they have experience and still suck is worse then if they had no experience at all.
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Old Aug 02, 2007, 07:07 AM // 07:07   #26
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I've done THK over 100 times, NM &HM (mad I know, but I like it ) so I reckon I've seen just about every ridiculous behaviour out there. For non-mission savvy PuGs, I try to instill a few simple rules e.g. monk or other backline char talks to king at start, don't over aggro, take bonus and camp king etc.

Lost count of the number of times the (generally) uninfused W/Mo goes Leeeerooooy.....and dies
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Old Aug 02, 2007, 07:20 AM // 07:20   #27
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I would never Pug A wammo, Ever. Koss is a thousand times better.

Koss Vs Wammo:

Me: "Get back here !"
Koss: *unclick flag, set to flee* Returns immediatly.
Wammo: Ur A n00b I konw wut im doing ive been plying since beta n00b lol n00*dies*.

Me: "Why the hell are you using a sword instead of a hammer and trying to use hammer skills ?"
Koss: *would never happen*
Wammo: SO WUT ! *Has sword, axe, and hammer skills on his bar equipped* DPS = 5.

Me: "Aggro that"
Koss: Insta-reply.
Wammo: Aggros everything in sight except what the group wanted to aggro, then bring them back to the group so all the aggrod monsters can now re-aggro...the monk. His excuse ? They shattered mending.
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Old Aug 02, 2007, 07:56 AM // 07:56   #28
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"hi"
"EAT SHIT AND DIE FAG"
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Old Aug 02, 2007, 08:02 AM // 08:02   #29
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AB, Ancestral Lands... I'm on the luxon side, so we have to fight rather hard to win. This guy, standing still, doing nothing except yelling in 'all chat': Pls don't kill me Kurzick, I'll open the gates for you if you don't hurt me... etc etc

He kept going on about that the whole battle, very annoying
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Old Aug 02, 2007, 08:05 AM // 08:05   #30
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The worst player I have ever been with was actually a Monk. We were doing the Gate of Madness, which I had done many times before and was trying to help a friend through, and this monk would just not listen to anything I would tell him, and would continually run off in opposite directions from the rest of the group, bringing unnecessary enemies on us. He was actually weilding a sword and a shield and trying to fight them off. I did eventually tell him he's not a tank and should just hang back and keep everyone cured. To say the least, we never managed to beat the boss at the end. I actually recieved PM's from the rest of the group asking "who is this guy?"

Also, one time when I was attempting to do the Ring of Fire, we were going to storm in through the main entrance, when I tell this whammo on our team to slow down and wait for the two monks with us to regain their energy. He responds with "I'm monk, I cure myself" and then continues to charge in, followed quickly by "rez plz".

I have nothing against new players, and I don't mind helping them understand how to play better, but when they think they're the best there ever was, and refuse to do anything others say, it causes a serious problem.
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Old Aug 02, 2007, 08:29 AM // 08:29   #31
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Let's talk about our own 'rude/worse' behaviour, since that is always better than complaining about others.

I recently 'ragequit' when my guild team failed big time at THK HM (I already have the mission, was helping several others to get it).
In mission I was already typing ' /cry' in team chat several times because things were going bad from the start.
When we got back after a whipe at THK outpost I just typed ' /ragequit' and shut down my guildwars.
Got back online later and said sorry 'bout that

Guess I'm not that rude (if you can even consider it rude) most of the time, but I know I won't play any missions with others (except a few guildies) after such an event.
When I do, I'd probably be upset about every person over-extending or taking wrong aggro and rage about it the whole mission.
That's no fun for me and also not for others.

Can't remember any 'worsed' play, but that can also be because I don't even know I'm bad
Probably a lot of people in the last HA event would have something to comment on my LoD/Infuse monk.
From Infusing the wrong person to being in the wrong spot.

Things I do remember is not paying attention and Ctrl + cast: "I am using Backfire on <PvE warrior>" as mesmer. .... Several times in the same mission.
Or being in the wrong spot where you just know enemies will spawn.
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Old Aug 02, 2007, 08:33 AM // 08:33   #32
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I once played with this unsavoury Demonophobic Demon character, and he was terrible! He'd find some way to (badly) insult your race, religion or character!

He'd also run straight into huge groups and manage to get himself totally owned by frenzy, and yell at the group for not moving fast enough! He also yelled ALL THE TIME.
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Old Aug 02, 2007, 08:34 AM // 08:34   #33
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OH! That reminds me. FRENZY MONK! Yes, that's right. A frenzy monk. With mending. I wanted to grab him by his ankles and swing him down the stairs. Thankfully, it was only the Ascalon missions and my elementalist, who was helping a friend at the time, could solo the area and one hit kill. Still, stupidity just keeps coming.

And just today. A paragon agreed to run Zen Daijun for newbies for free. I decided to hitch a ride. A warrior (always seems to be warrior related with me) decided he wanted to help. Fine. That's nice of him. However, his methods were so painful to watch and ESPECIALLY when I'm going for Survivor. He ran ahead, lured 6 afflicted back to an AFK assassin and myself. Thankfully I knew things would go wrong so set up spirits to bombard any one who dared to approach. The afflicted eventually died. Safe? Not quite. He THEN decided to run around and swim in miasma and draw it back to US! If I wasn't so quick witted, that would have went horribly.
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Old Aug 02, 2007, 09:24 AM // 09:24   #34
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Umm, MONKS. Yes.

Everytime I play PvE with PUG-monks,
they always think they're the best.
Ragequit, dont heal and stupid stuff like that.

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Old Aug 02, 2007, 10:43 AM // 10:43   #35
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I had a good one the other night. I was doing Minister Cho's Estate HM. I was an Ele and we had another Ele, a Warrior and a hench monk. The other ele was dying at almost every mob. About halfway thru the mission I asked him what Elite was on his bar.

His answer? "Flare!"

Me: Huh? "Flare isn't an elite!!"
Ele: "So! it's the bestest most awesome Ele skill ever!!! It's better than most elites"
Warrior: "Yeah, he's right. Flare rocks!!"
Me: "Actually it's not that good."

I lost that argument. The Ele and Warrior decided they both knew better than the poor little noob ele who refused to add Flare to her bar (me). I quickly found a different pug.
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Old Aug 02, 2007, 11:03 AM // 11:03   #36
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Umm, MONKS. Yes.

Everytime I play PvE with PUG-monks,
they always think they're the best.
Ragequit, dont heal and stupid stuff like that.

~Prof.
When I head a PuG I often get, not natsy, but surprised comments from most people when I put on Dunkoro instead of a human monk, even if there is one spamming "Monk LFG" in local. I explain my reasoning (being that human monks tend to leave missions half way through) to the rest of the group and they often agree and have no problem with me using a hero monk.

Monks seem to be clinging desperately to the days when they were the only healers and they could demand whatever they wanted in PuGs since they were "required"...it annoys me a great deal.

The worst players in Guild Wars, however, are those who appear to have been referred to time and time again in this thread. It is those people who have a terrible build but think it's "leet"...but refuse to take any advice on how to make it better. I've lost count of the number of fire eles I've grouped with who think no attunements, glyphs or elite skills are the way forwards and refuse to believe otherwise. I like to make a point of commenting when they spam "My energy is 4 of 102" in missions.
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Old Aug 02, 2007, 11:14 AM // 11:14   #37
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When I head a PuG I often get, not natsy, but surprised comments from most people when I put on Dunkoro instead of a human monk, even if there is one spamming "Monk LFG" in local. I explain my reasoning (being that human monks tend to leave missions half way through) to the rest of the group and they often agree and have no problem with me using a hero monk.

Monks seem to be clinging desperately to the days when they were the only healers and they could demand whatever they wanted in PuGs since they were "required"...it annoys me a great deal.

The worst players in Guild Wars, however, are those who appear to have been referred to time and time again in this thread. It is those people who have a terrible build but think it's "leet"...but refuse to take any advice on how to make it better. I've lost count of the number of fire eles I've grouped with who think no attunements, glyphs or elite skills are the way forwards and refuse to believe otherwise. I like to make a point of commenting when they spam "My energy is 4 of 102" in missions.
I actually remember a long time ago when monks would charge people gold. Such as "Monk LFG only 500g". That was also when nobody would ever accept a Necro too.
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Old Aug 02, 2007, 11:19 AM // 11:19   #38
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One time... At band camp.

Just kidding.

To the point; I once tried to complete Jennur's horde with two arrogant nihilistic monks; same guild, one with Fissure armour, and she thought she was the shit.

Of course; when I went to lure the enemies with my flatbow she accuses me of aggro via heroes... even though they are 100+ feet away on passive. Furthermore she runs right off with her buddy, leaving the still living party (the other 6 of us) alone to fight a mob and a demon. She then found herself in the middle of a number of mobs (i was dead at this time; with my camera tracking her character) and promptly dies. At this point she flys right off the hook at the rest of the party - at least 4 minimaps away, for not offering backup and support.


I hate monks. Sadly they're too important and vital to a team. Some are nice and I've met quite a few, but then you get alot of self-important idiots who think they know everything and have the right to blame left right and centre... because they trained a monk into mid-game or further.
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Old Aug 02, 2007, 11:37 AM // 11:37   #39
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Slightly off-topic:
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Everytime I play PvE with PUG-monks,
they always think they're the best.
Ragequit, dont heal and stupid stuff like that.
Well, that's exactly the reason why I only play Monk in teams that are at least part guild teams (I hardly ever play NM anymore, HM most of the time).
I know my performance depends a lot on the total team.
And since many PuGs are not coordinated enough and many times not willing to take advice, I am not really willing to monk them (since that would mean getting blamed).
When I see that a decent PuG is forming, I'm always willing to switch my character for my monk when they need one.

This has nothing to do with leet behaviour, but all with getting things done.
I want to play for fun, not frustration.
In a non-coordinated team, I'm better of playing Mesmer, Ranger or Necro.
I know how to make things easier for the rest of the team.
In a coordinated team, I won't get frustrated as monk and therefore play it when I like to.
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Old Aug 02, 2007, 11:42 AM // 11:42   #40
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Problem with monks is that they do not get criticized, ever, when mission is in progress as people fear they would ragequit (and very bad monk is still better than no monk).

People also dont dare to question their skillbars (healing breeze in hardmode, yeah) in case they would leve team.

But worst thing is that they can do very bad job and still get 'awesome healing' from group.

All this makes them confident, evne if there is no objective reason for it.

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And frankly, hero monk bars are not that good either, 90% I pug and someone brings their hero monk it is like this:
* Mo with no secodnary, not even attemt at bringing energy mamagement.
* Healing Breeze, Remove Hex, Heal Party and Divine Healing is staple on their skillbars.
* Prot sucks, mkkay?

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i knwo that this should not be build-bash-fest, but i think this is worth it:


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